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You just proved my point.

You are upset YOU are not being heard. So, you don't read/listen to the counter arguments.

The fact that there ARE counter arguments, means you HAVE BEEN HEARD. You're just wrong.

Hypocritically, you are upset for not being heard, when it is you that is not hearing US.

You don't deserve to be a MNO. You can't be trusted to act objectively. Unfortunately, there is no way to prevent a willingly ignorant person from being a MNO whale.
 
Not sure what your on about? I'm not upset? I'm open to all discussions else I wouldn't be replying! Unlike leacy and her locked thread saying she won't reply.

I think your just refusing to see my view? I can see yours! You think I'm wrong with my view of how the dao works and I shouldn't be allowed to vote! You think all masternode owners do is vote for funding and not roles, i have let that one go and only mentioned masternode owners vote for funding but if your not getting the information asked for from the proposal people how can masternode owners decide if they deserve funding?

We're going round in circles over and over. You see it different than me that's fine! That's how democracy works the votes decide who gets funding. Downvoted, no funding, no role is my view. Yours is downvoted, stay in role, work for free...can't see that working 😏
 
You said; "I hardly even read your full posts tbh."

That contradicts this statement; "I think your just refusing to see my view? I can see yours!"

Make up your mind. Read everything I reply with, and come back with counter arguments or facts and logic not already countered, and we can move forward.

But, if you are going to continue to ignore the information given to you, then you are proving my point about why you were banned from the main Discord. You just keep repeating the same thing, ignoring the facts, logic and data points presented to you.
 
I want to make clear that I support @LeacyMcK 200%. Her work for PIVX is very important.

My takes from the conversation above are:
-LeacyMcK is involved in so much more than PIVX's X accounts. Those accounts' performance is what you critizise, but it has been made clear to yo many times that basically all X accounts connected to privacy coins are performing low lately. You pick this as your main point of critique. So the low performance isn't something you can blame her for. Being the X-expert you want us to believe you are, you should know.
-You have also been informed many times that your constant repetition of accusations, resulting in repetetive answers, takes a lot of manpower and energy away from what we love to do: support PIVX. I can understand that many people just ignore you, because you're not contributing in any positive way to PIVX. You also seem to be reluctant to take in answers and well-meant advice.
-It seems to me that your ego has taken over, and you put yourself into positions where others are fed up with you, just to scream that your right to free speech was violated. That's utter BS. Or as the Danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard so beautifully said it:

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”

Instead of stealing other people's time and energy, I again invite you to let go of your ego, and see the greater good for PIVX as something to direct your energy to. Use your freedom of thought, and ask yourself: "What can I do today, to help PIVX?" Why don't you use your X account and post some of the things you think work well in PIVX? Prove to us that you can do better on X than LeacyMcK can, and if you have done so, I will respectfully clap to your achievement. Wouldn't it be great to finally be able to prove that you were correct? Well, make it happen! Show your merits first with your own X account, before you critize her, or anyone else, for that matter.
 
I want to make clear that I support @LeacyMcK 200%. Her work for PIVX is very important.

My takes from the conversation above are:
-LeacyMcK is involved in so much more than PIVX's X accounts. Those accounts' performance is what you critizise, but it has been made clear to yo many times that basically all X accounts connected to privacy coins are performing low lately. You pick this as your main point of critique. So the low performance isn't something you can blame her for. Being the X-expert you want us to believe you are, you should know.
-You have also been informed many times that your constant repetition of accusations, resulting in repetetive answers, takes a lot of manpower and energy away from what we love to do: support PIVX. I can understand that many people just ignore you, because you're not contributing in any positive way to PIVX. You also seem to be reluctant to take in answers and well-meant advice.
-It seems to me that your ego has taken over, and you put yourself into positions where others are fed up with you, just to scream that your right to free speech was violated. That's utter BS. Or as the Danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard so beautifully said it:

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”

Instead of stealing other people's time and energy, I again invite you to let go of your ego, and see the greater good for PIVX as something to direct your energy to. Use your freedom of thought, and ask yourself: "What can I do today, to help PIVX?" Why don't you use your X account and post some of the things you think work well in PIVX? Prove to us that you can do better on X than LeacyMcK can, and if you have done so, I will respectfully clap to your achievement. Wouldn't it be great to finally be able to prove that you were correct? Well, make it happen! Show your merits first with your own X account, before you critize her, or anyone else, for that matter.
Ego? Not sure why this keeps getting said. I don't want to sit and have to give criticism and I shouldn't if the right people are in the job which clearly they are not in this case. I've proven that a 0 account bar my porn stars 🤣 still laughing at that one, gets more activity with hash tags. It's out performing your posts also. That's just one improvement! Imagine if we had a social person who understood it? I like how you reply all the time to other people's posts but maybe I was wrong to think you were someone to step up because you clearly don't understand either.

I am sick of this excuse its the algos. X/twitter is the most open free speech platform in the world. The idea they are blocking privacy coins is ridiculous and is an excuse created for why the socials are not performing.

Are you also ignoring that if it was up to eric my votes wouldn't count? Is that your view also? Discord was the start, banning people from an opposing view, now the forum is being suppressed from discussions and criticism of proposals. Whether you agree with my view or not i have the right to say whatever, you don't have to reply which is your right also!
 
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Ego? Not sure why this keeps getting said.
Well, why not contemplate about it.
It's out performing your posts also.
Happy for you. Then try with not one single post, but some many over a longer period of time then, that help PIVX get more traction, instead of scaring people away.
you clearly don't understand either.
Whatever opinion makes you happy. You can't insult me. I know that I do more good for PIVX than you do.
The idea they are blocking privacy coins is ridiculous and is an excuse created for why the socials are not performing.
I have never come up with the idea that X was blocking privacy coins.


Edit: It seems that you've blocked me on X. Interesting. Did I give you any reason for that?
 
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None of that was an insult and i dont attack anyone, just call out suppression of conversations, poor performance and bs from people who have a so far leftard view they would ignore votes! I've proven what you wanted in 1 post that hash tags make a difference. Maybe start using them yourself and take on that knowledge it's an improvement instead of shutting down and ignoring what I have proven!

I don't want to sit on socials, it's not for me. I don't want to sit on this forum but someone has to call out bs and critique poor performance.

Ego has nothing to do with anything. Maybe it's everyone else's ego that doesn't want to admit when they are wrong?

I don't want to have to keep chiming in every now and then to call out poor performance. If your paid from the budget it is my job as a masternode owner to vote through and give criticism, ask questions etc on proposals I feel are not getting money value. If there is no accountability nothing changes!
 
I've blocked you on twitter? I haven't blocked anyone. See all your posts. Your prob checking an account I deleted. I don't sit on socials so deleted them. The account posted with the 0 followers is only used to browse the news.

Leacy came up with the x algos excuse.
 
If your paid from the budget it is my job as a masternode owner to vote through and give criticism, ask questions etc on proposals I feel are not getting money value.

And I welcome everyone who gives constructive critizism and ask questions. The thing is, most of your questions have been addressed many times. From what I perceive, you focus on one small issue you have with Leacy's workload, but fail to see the big picture of her work, her efforts, her organizing and all things she does. She does so much more than what you pick on.

Ego has nothing to do with anything.

Science shows that our ego runs the show most of the times. If you're into reading, get Dr Chris Niebauer's No Self, No Problem. It's really interesting.

Leacy came up with the x algos excuse.

... and many others use the same excuse. Hm, what could that tell us?

I've blocked you on twitter? I haven't blocked anyone

Found it now, resolved.
 
Maybe I keep mentioning the same thing because it's still not working? It's not a small issue it's a huge one. Social media is the corner stone of getting pivx known and it isn't getting no where near enough views. Is that not obvious or are you so far gone you refuse to see it?

It's not like this hasn't been mentioned for years now and still it hasn't improved. Throwing money at failing to perform proposals is ridiculous.
 
Once again, you fail to acknowledge or comprehend what is being said to you. It literally is like talking to a brick wall.

Also, your concern about the selection of hashtags has come up before, and LeacyMcK responded based on her experience. Do you recall the specifics of her response?
 
Once again, you fail to acknowledge or comprehend what is being said to you. It literally is like talking to a brick wall.

Also, your concern about the selection of hashtags has come up before, and LeacyMcK responded based on her experience. Do you recall the specifics of her response?
I feel exactly the same! Feel like I am a jukebox on repeat. Crazy how people have completely different views aye? but that's how the world is! Difference is I wouldn't silence your views by banning, locking threads and trying to stop the discussion.

Well siegge is doing a little test so let's see the result 😉 already seeing more views, wether that turns into interactions is to be seen. Even views tho is better than very few. The brand is seen and maybe next time you'll think I've seen that before lets take a look.
 
I feel exactly the same! Feel like I am a jukebox on repeat. Crazy how people have completely different views aye? but that's how the world is! Difference is I wouldn't silence your views by banning, locking threads and trying to stop the discussion.

Well siegge is doing a little test so let's see the result 😉 already seeing more views, wether that turns into interactions is to be seen
Notice how you completely ignored my question? Brick wall syndrome again. Difference for me, is I reply with facts, logic and rational thought. You don't. We can't understand you if you don't provide support for your arguments. You can't understand us if you don't read what we write and listen to it.
 
Notice how you completely ignored my question? Brick wall syndrome again. Difference for me, is I reply with facts, logic and rational thought. You don't. We can't understand you if you don't provide support for your arguments. You can't understand us if you don't read what we write and listen to it.
I ignored it because I don't agree with her. I don't agree that hash tags don't work. That good enough reply and to keep it civil?

If hash tags didn't work they wouldn't be there and everyone wouldnt use them! 😂 unless you can give me some other reason what the hash tags are for? I search #btc for example I'm searching for btc, if it then shows pivx posts aswell in that search that's what you want!
 
Re: "I am sick of this excuse its the algos. X/twitter is the most open free speech platform in the world."

A simple search here in this forum, and I found this: https://forum.pivx.org/threads/content-strategist.2032/#post-5307

So, it has been explained to you before, that this is not an 'excuse' but a valid issue that everyone on Twitter is dealing with. You ignore this FACT, and just persist with your view. No information to support your view, or to discount the information given to you. All you do is ignore the information (brick wall again) and state your view again and again and again.

I went and asked Venice.ai questions:


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Pasting the image I referenced from her past post here for easy reference.

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Re: "I ignored it because I don't agree with her. I don't agree that hash tags don't work."

You don't agree with her. OK. How about AI, and the many many other Twitter accounts, each with tons of experience, all given to you as data points above? Do you disagree with them too?

Obviously, hashtags have their place and are a key feature of Twitter. However, what we can see is that their use is far more complicated that simply plastering a bunch of them.

Now is your opportunity to show us you know better. Please provide facts, data points, logic, rational thought, all from reputable sources. If you can't do that, then the next step is for you to concede that you are incorrect and that we should trust LeacyMcK to find the right balance and optimization for what hashtags are selected, and how many there are.

Thanks.
 
So you agree they are needed but it in the correct way and not to spam it according to the rules/algo?

I won't concede nothing. You've posted and shown that using hastags increases engagment by 21%. You also shown the pros and cons. Aslong as you don't spam it it works! Thanks for doing that for me 👍
 
Re: "You've posted and shown that using hastags increases engagment by 21%."

Yes, and LeacyMcK does of course use hashtags. So, that factoid is completely useless to your argument. As such, you have done nothing to support your position. You have simply restated it again - exactly as I said you would do.

You have completely ignored all the other information, which all strongly supports you are wrong.

I know you won't concede. Your ego doesn't allow for it. Even for the most flagrant errors in judgement you make, you refuse to admit you are wrong.

Well, I hope you at least change your votes, because otherwise, you hurt yourself, LeacyMck, and most importantly PIVX.
 
I know you won't concede. Your ego doesn't allow for it. Even for the most flagrant errors in judgement you make, you refuse to admit you are wrrong.
It's almost like I have a view of something and I stick to it instead of caving in to a view i dont agree with? Great to not be bullied into a position. You won't admit your wrong when I think you are and I won't admit I am wrong because I don't think I am!

What you have posted doesn't make me change my mind at all. I think it even strengthens my argument!

She does use them but not to the fullest as can be seen from the analytics! She's had years to get it active and it's failing to get any traction. If she was in a normal job and had a performance review she'd of been sacked years ago but how the dao works she's been getting voted through by yourself and me aswell! Even tho I don't think she should of been there jeffery convinces me otherwise.

Enough is enough now she's shut down criticism by locking her thread and refusing to answer anything. This is not how a dao should work.

Go tell her put her big boy pants on and stop hiding behind you. Accountability! I have been nothing but civil with my questions yet I always get attacked from the likes of you and the usual people. Only a few seem to bother now, why don't you join them and save us both the time having to reply the samethings over and over and let the votes decide? But then again youve publicly stated that if someone is voted out you'd just ignore that and they would stay on without pay...not for long I bet...let's see!

The only people I want to speak to are proposal owners on this forum, which you are not. I ask questions to figure out how to cast my votes. I ask on all proposals I am unsure on how to vote.

We are complete opposite opinions of how the dao works and your friendship with leacy clouds your judgement.
 
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Just think. All of these conversations would not of happened if you'd of left it at my first post if she's working more she should get paid more and i voted yes but you couldn't help yourself. I told you your not helping her and you've made her lock all criticism out which is a red line so she has to go.
 
It's almost like I have a view of something and I stick to it instead of caving in to a view i dont agree with? Great to not be bullied into a position. You won't admit your wrong when I think you are and I won't admit I am wrong because I don't think I am!
Yes. Difference is, the sum entirety of support for your position is that you THINK you are right.
Conversely, myself and others have provided MANY MANY data points, logic and rational thought, showing you are wrong.
You just keep making the same assertion. We keep coming back with more and more support.

What you have posted doesn't make me change my mind at all. I think it even strengthens my argument!
OK. Now I am confused. Not only does what has been presented prove you are wrong, any time you've tried to show it supports your argument, I've shown your failed logic.

She does use them but not to the fullest as can be seen from the analytics!
What analytics. Please do provide those. Remember, the blatant weakness to your argument is you have no supporting info. So, if you've got some, it would be in your best interest to show it.

She's had years to get it active and it's failing to get any traction.
Let's assume you are right. How does removing her from the role help? We have no one willing to fill the role, and someone new can't be immediately trusted. So, why not wait until someone better comes along? Posts to Twitter are just one part of her role. If someone new shows up and proves themselves, most certainly the opportunity for them to take on more and more responsibility will come their way. That's how it has worked for everyone else. But, you propose she step down, and we then have a massive hole in the Team, that could take years to fill. Further, it will negatively impact many other roles/proposals.
Enough is enough now she's shut down criticism by locking her thread and refusing to answer anything. This is not how a dao should work.
Correct. This is not how it should work. I did see you were making a concerted effort to act more respectfully and ask good questions. I even commented on that to others. However, it was short lived, and you went into attack mode again. It would be great if the forum allowed just one person to be blocked from responding to a post, but it is either no lock, or fully locked. So, your abuse of the right for people to make comments, has stopped everyone from making comments. Yet, you blame her? You are the one that triggers that action with your abuse and disrespect. So, it is in your power to reverse that, but it is going to take a long time.
Go tell her put her big boy pants on and stop hiding behind you. Accountability!
She has defended herself many many times. But, you can't deal with the truth. Doesn't matter how much support her counter position has. You just get louder and louder and louder, with nothing to support your position. No one asks me to call you out for them. I just know that they are all smarter than me, and know it is a complete waste of time communicating with you. Plus, even if they do want to try to explain again, they fear you will then vote them down. As such, you get near zero feedback from proposal authors. Good job.

Here is a good example of LeacyMcK replying to your questions/attack. All you've proven today and yesterday that it was a complete waste of her time to reply to you, because you STILL are not listening. https://forum.pivx.org/threads/content-strategist.2032/#post-5256

Key comment there from LeacyMcK; "And your ignorant comment about hashtags once again shows your lack of understanding how socials work. We look at trending hashtags along with others that are applicable to our posts, we have used #BTC in the past and will use it again BUT not all of the time."

I have been nothing but civil with my questions yet I always get attacked from the likes of you and the usual people.
This is complete bullshit / gas lighting. You are rarely civil. At best, you are grossly ignorant of the topic being discussed, and when people point that out, or any other item for that matter, you act like you never read what they wrote. That prompts us to get LOUDER. Doesn't work. Ugh.

Only a few seem to bother now, why don't you join them and save us both the time having to reply the samethings over and over and let the votes decide?
Yes. I also constantly question why I bother because you don't listen. You have a bunch of votes. If you are wrong about something, it is my responsibility as a PIVian to point it out, so that you can make an informed decision. That's why I provide feedback with facts, data points, logic, expert opinions, and rational thought.
But then again youve publicly stated that if someone is voted out you'd just ignore that and they would stay on without pay...not for long I bet...let's see!
Some might stay, albeit with effort scaled back dramatically. Some might leave. My point in those public comments is that everyone volunteers here. Even those that get paid, often add more hours. They are here because they are passionate about PIVX and 'bleed purple'. I don't know what LeacyMcK would do. I'm sure she has opportunities to work for other projects, although she may not realize that. Regardless, if she is voted out, she is going to honor the trust we've placed in her, and hold onto account access until we find someone we can trust, who has been able to prove themselves. In the meantime, it will throw a lot of efforts into chaos. Your ego will get inflated. PIVX will suffer greatly. The price will drop.
The only people I want to speak to are proposal owners on this forum, which you are not.
OK. No problem. Stop replying then. But, you're not trying to stomp on my right to speak freely are you? I hope not. Because I am not going anywhere. I will be calling you out constantly when you make mistakes or attack people.
I ask questions to figure out how to cast my votes.
Great! But, why do you ignore the answers - especially the well supported ones?

We are complete opposite opinions of how the dao works and your friendship with leacy clouds your judgement.
The way I see the DAO working, is how it has been working since launch in 2016. Your way of how it works, is you being dictator. Sorry. Not happening. The DAO will continue regardless. It's just a question of how much damage you inflict before even you have to admit you are wrong. Until then, PIVX suffers and stops growing as fast as it could.

All of these conversations would not of happened if you'd of left it at my first post if she's working more she should get paid more and i voted yes but you couldn't help yourself.
Nope. You went into attack mode. YOU couldn't help yourself. The chronology is there for anyone to see.
I told you your not helping her and you've made her lock all criticism out which is a red line so she has to go.
Then why has she and multiple other people, sent me DMs thanking me for pushing back against you?
Remember, all my comments are 'push back' against your failed logic and attacks. That makes you the instigator and the reason.

PIVX is a Meritocracy. No one decided that. It is just a natural dynamic that comes from having a group of volunteers put major effort and passion into this project. Granted, they are not all volunteers now, as many are paid, but often they all still add more hours they are not paid for. I believe that the Meritocracy is why PIVX has survived. Others disagreed and left to start other projects. They have ALL failed. (DeVault, Veil, SmartCash, Cherry Network etc. etc. )


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Let's get to the point FINALLY.

This is all about ONE thing. You want the ability to abuse the right to speak freely, so that you can attack people to get your way, instead of being professional and acting in the best interest of PIVX. Further, even when you get replies, you ignore all data, facts, logic and material that supports that go against your view, while providing nothing to support your view. You just assert the same original point over and over and over and over. That's not how debates work. That's how dictatorships work, and the PIVX DAO is obviously not supporting that.

Change your approach. Help BUILD PIVX. Stop attacking.


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Here are some comments in DMs to me:

"His ongoing harassment would bother anyone on the team. It’s too much for anyone."

"It bothers me that you have to use some of your productive time going after him."

"Calm down and make yourself a cup of coffee! You've been trying to talk to this guy since the day I joined PIVX and he never understands."

"Yes its bad. Everyone does have PTSD. Its really hard to work on anything."

"When someone says they're not suicidal - they actually are. So, when someone says; 'I am surely trusted enough to not go full blown kamikaze?' best to assume they will."
 
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