Content Strategist and anyone else who cannot reply to questions...GONE!
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this has wasted too much of my time.
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
In order to agree to disagree, the respectful process is for each side to hear each other first. You haven't. In fact once again you refuse to listen.
So, No. We can't agree to disagree. You haven't supported your side at all.
The future of PIVX is worth the time to do Due Diligence. You are avoiding doing it, even when the logic and facts and thought process are served to you on a silver platter.
You don't care about facts.
You don't care about logic.
You don't care about hard data.
You don't care what experts say.
You don't care what PIVians say.
You refuse to consider you are wrong.
You refuse to act professionally.
You refuse to act in best interests of PIVX.
You don't have any critical thinking skills.
Your only tactics are to bully people.
Your only desire is to troll.
Your only motive is to feed your ego.
Do better Borris. You are a MNO for PIVX for crying out loud. This isn't the school playground. This is real money and real people. Man up.
So, No. We can't agree to disagree. You haven't supported your side at all.
The future of PIVX is worth the time to do Due Diligence. You are avoiding doing it, even when the logic and facts and thought process are served to you on a silver platter.
You don't care about facts.
You don't care about logic.
You don't care about hard data.
You don't care what experts say.
You don't care what PIVians say.
You refuse to consider you are wrong.
You refuse to act professionally.
You refuse to act in best interests of PIVX.
You don't have any critical thinking skills.
Your only tactics are to bully people.
Your only desire is to troll.
Your only motive is to feed your ego.
Do better Borris. You are a MNO for PIVX for crying out loud. This isn't the school playground. This is real money and real people. Man up.
It's OK. I accept your view is your own and in your mind you are always right and I am wrong. I am not going to keep going round in circles, wasting mine and your time replying. Let's just see how the dao works with votes aye?
We are not going agree so why even bother continuing this conversation? Go for a walk and chill out. You'll be for an early grave stressing.
We are not going agree so why even bother continuing this conversation? Go for a walk and chill out. You'll be for an early grave stressing.
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
What a great idea.
Let's start a trend.
Let's start a trend.
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SiggeB
Pivian
What puzzles me is that you are the ONLY one that wants to sink LeacyMcK's proposal. Literally everyone else I know and see values her work and supports her. Still, you refuse to read the room, for years!
Then you say that this had nothing to do with ego. Of course you would say that, because you would never admit any wrongdoing.
Let me be very clear:
It is my opinion that your behaviour against LeacyMck and other well respected community members hurts PIVX's reputation.
It is my opinion that you are bullying her particularly, and many others. You have proven many times that you are unwilling to cooperate.
It is my opinion that you are very capable of dishing and slashing out against others, but you suck at taking in advice or others opinions.
It is my opinion that you turn into a piece of wet soap when confronted with contraring opinions, and when people call you out, you hide behind your victim veil.
It is my opinion that you are a bully.
You are basically isolated but unfortunately seem to use your MN voting power for your own ego, but not for PIVX's best interest.
In any given workplace environment, you'd be removed or fired.
Your behavior is a threat to the well-being of my colleagues and to the reputation of PIVX! This behaviour needs to stop!!!
I'm done with being neutral, understanding and open for your thoughts. I've reached out many hands. I'm done. Get help somewhere else.
I'm guessing that your replies will consist mostly of more accusations and insults, which will only prove my point.
Then you say that this had nothing to do with ego. Of course you would say that, because you would never admit any wrongdoing.
Let me be very clear:
It is my opinion that your behaviour against LeacyMck and other well respected community members hurts PIVX's reputation.
It is my opinion that you are bullying her particularly, and many others. You have proven many times that you are unwilling to cooperate.
It is my opinion that you are very capable of dishing and slashing out against others, but you suck at taking in advice or others opinions.
It is my opinion that you turn into a piece of wet soap when confronted with contraring opinions, and when people call you out, you hide behind your victim veil.
It is my opinion that you are a bully.
You are basically isolated but unfortunately seem to use your MN voting power for your own ego, but not for PIVX's best interest.
In any given workplace environment, you'd be removed or fired.
Your behavior is a threat to the well-being of my colleagues and to the reputation of PIVX! This behaviour needs to stop!!!
I'm done with being neutral, understanding and open for your thoughts. I've reached out many hands. I'm done. Get help somewhere else.
I'm guessing that your replies will consist mostly of more accusations and insults, which will only prove my point.
I go off what I see and it's poor. I don't attack I call out bs.
I'm the only one vocal enough to call it out. Others vote no just don't speak. As I said votes decide, this is the dao.
The team members are employees that get paid. If they don't get paid they then become unemployed or unpaid volunteers. See how it works? You just don't see it that way because of this twisted view that is being pushed of how you lot think the dao works, if your voted out your still in the position...absolutely ludicrous.
I think were done now and you have shown your view to siegge which is good to know.
I have tried to cooperate and find middle ground and ways around it. Even offered to do her job in socials for a couple of month for free!
What if I am right??? You refuse to even explore. Can't have that so you all shut it down. How's the test gone with the same post with more hashtags?? O look more views...
I think we are done now. I can't waste anymore time and i wont even be bothering to reply anymore because its like being a repeat. Your sticking to your view, im sticking to mine. Let's see how the dao works out. If you go back in time to the first time I started bringing my view of the dao you'll see I predicted the vote shift away. Will it happen this cycle? Maybe? But it will it's inevitable (thanos voice).
Btw you haven't been neutral from the start. Neutral is not getting invovled and seeing it from both sides like liquid and jeffery who I speak to amicably. You've tried to convince me to change my view and refused to even contemplate I maybe right from the moment you started which is far from neutral. Good day sir!
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if you can't laugh and see the irony of that I'd hate to be locked in a room with you lot.
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
You only focus on Twitter views when that is a very small part of the huge value LeacyMcK's proposal returns.
So, let me ask you this, is 1.6K views on CMC, for ONE of the many announcements value added? Or are you OK with that social being killed too?
So, let me ask you this, is 1.6K views on CMC, for ONE of the many announcements value added? Or are you OK with that social being killed too?
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
You OK letting this effort be killed too? Note that post went out one day before the event. What value do you give to those views?
LeacyMcK is the founder of the Privacy Roundtable. Because of that effort, PIVX is now included far more often, when listing privacy coins. Plus, we get major exposure during the event, and Yenachar represents PIVX in the call. Further, there are now strong relationships between PIVX and Firo, BasicSwap, Particles, Zcash etc.
What value do you give to that effort?
I'll reply because I can't help myself. I offered a solution to jeffery.
I focus on twitter posts as its the most used news platform in the world and it's not gaining traction after years under her leadership. All socials really but I haven't got time to pick at them all. Twitter is most used one so my comments/critism of expanding the others would be 10 fold twitter as there is 0 use there.
Eg. Why has Facebook not been posted on since 10th! Why are you not using all the tools available that auto posts on all platforms! I've said this multiple times. Like I keep saying but you don't listen!
I'll try again. Here's one that does it! Just have to set the applets up. It's ridiculous she isn't using these resources and would explain why I didn't get a reply to are you doing each one manually and why these platforms get hardly any posts and interactions.
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Sooo my proposal. Leacy stops social posts and interaction, passes the buck onto someone else I suggested @SiggeB as hes already posting shit loads anyway and he would then do report for that. She then puts a proposal in for all the other stuff she does which i know she does. It's not about getting rid of her because she could of been voted out ALOT of times now. Thank Jeffery for that. The other voters don't speak so guess they only read here As they probably are banned from discord...
She unlocks her posts and updates on here and replies to questions. If she doesn't do that it's a no and will always be a no.
I focus on twitter posts as its the most used news platform in the world and it's not gaining traction after years under her leadership. All socials really but I haven't got time to pick at them all. Twitter is most used one so my comments/critism of expanding the others would be 10 fold twitter as there is 0 use there.
Eg. Why has Facebook not been posted on since 10th! Why are you not using all the tools available that auto posts on all platforms! I've said this multiple times. Like I keep saying but you don't listen!
I'll try again. Here's one that does it! Just have to set the applets up. It's ridiculous she isn't using these resources and would explain why I didn't get a reply to are you doing each one manually and why these platforms get hardly any posts and interactions.
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Sooo my proposal. Leacy stops social posts and interaction, passes the buck onto someone else I suggested @SiggeB as hes already posting shit loads anyway and he would then do report for that. She then puts a proposal in for all the other stuff she does which i know she does. It's not about getting rid of her because she could of been voted out ALOT of times now. Thank Jeffery for that. The other voters don't speak so guess they only read here As they probably are banned from discord...
She unlocks her posts and updates on here and replies to questions. If she doesn't do that it's a no and will always be a no.
So I keep this forum updated. I've now been told leacy doesn't even do the posts bar twitter so my criticism of that still stands. Maybe proposals not worded properly but The others are handled by other people? I've suggested a list of who's doing what.
But when it says
"Content creating for official social accounts. (Research trends on socials and other like minded accounts. Content creating consists of coming up with ideas for graphics, and creating relevant copy, to accompany marketing promotions."
One assumes you do it all. Not passing the job of posting onto someone else.
But when it says
"Content creating for official social accounts. (Research trends on socials and other like minded accounts. Content creating consists of coming up with ideas for graphics, and creating relevant copy, to accompany marketing promotions."
One assumes you do it all. Not passing the job of posting onto someone else.
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
Twitter/X: @_PIVX, @PIVXcommunity
Instagram, Medium (somewhat recently) and Blue Sky (very recently).
I don't think she has managed Facebook for many years. Perhaps 4 or 5.
Instagram, Medium (somewhat recently) and Blue Sky (very recently).
I don't think she has managed Facebook for many years. Perhaps 4 or 5.
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
I know there was a time she was trying to find someone to do Instagram, but no one could dedicate time to it, so she just started giving it more time.
robertjack
New Pivian
It's essential that DAOs maintain transparency, accountability, and open dialogue to foster trust and collaboration. It’s concerning to hear that individuals are being banned for voicing concerns about performance—this undermines the principles of a decentralized, community-driven organization. A DAO should encourage healthy discussion, including constructive criticism, so that everyone involved can make informed decisions. Blocking engagement and avoiding accountability not only weakens the governance structure but also risks alienating members who are invested in improving the DAO. I hope the community addresses these issues and ensures that all members, regardless of their views, are heard and respected. Open communication and transparency are crucial for the long-term success of any DAO.
I think thats an area for improvement for the clarity!
Absolutely. We believe there should be a balance but when it also comes down to a situation of others devolving into a fight on someone else's post about that person, is that really the correct place? Is it constructive when it becomes an all out fight. I agree things must be open, but there is a line to not cross when it is no longer solely about the persons work but two people fighting on their position of the work, maybe that should go somewhere else. Because of what its become this is why it is currently locked but moving forward will not be. I think this current one just needs to be left as is and we can think of better ways to address issues.
Based on the reply above yours, it seems theres been misunderstandings anyways on peoples roles. I think we may work on clearing those things up and it may end up being less contentious for any discussions.
Eric_Stanek
Well-known Pivian
@robertjack No one has been banned for having a different view. They were banned for their behavior.
That is a total lie/how they view my questions/critism/trying to improve how pivx is run.I have been saying the exact same things for years and they got sick of me calling out the shit or saying how I viewed the dao differently so was banned. Multiple other people have been banned for calling people out. Unfortunately now that view has faded now and the votes have been reflecting that.
Don't try and excuse the fact you and multiple others including a core dev didn't like my attidude and he was the decider for confirming the ban and is needed for coding otherwise he would of been voted out multiple times by now. 2 faced. If only other devs would step up but I think it's the unwelcoming atmosphere that was mentioned by multiple people including are now marketing dev! @Hawtch . We have lost so many good people because let's put it down to you @Eric_Stanek because of your left wing view and hown things have been run because you had so much control over the voting power which you still do btw but not as bad. 2 core devs, 1 Web dev that actually knew what he was on about @Meerkat partner as well as multiple people who helped build pivx/dnet when we first started! Is that just the past year?
I have been here just as long as you but I've stuck around after being banned, shunned, even tho I have donated shit loads of funds to help keep us going when funds were short!
Ive met @fuzzbawls once, he was leathered at a bar drinking whiskey. I drank with him. I thought it was a good meet and got what information i wanted from the conference so decided not even bother going to it. Lost out on 500pivx apparently, as i won a comp.
I'd of got the screenshot up of fuzz saying me and another banned member(no point calling names in) He had more control at one point than anyone of the dao just chose not to). But looks like telegram only saves a year of data.
You've been told now @Eric_Stanek to stop bullshitting and putting wood on the fire. Why don't you listen?
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Even after pointing out that Facebook hasn't been posted on since 10th November there still isn't any new messages! The posts have already been made on the twitter account it's only copy and paste if you refuse to use ai to do it all for you whoever is actually doing it. Leacy has outsourced her work to volunteers who we need to know names so can direct it at them. Why hasn't all this been checked up to make sures it's posted?
Okay, let us clarify some things so we can settle this and move forward constructively. There are some things we need to address here and settle. First and foremost this is a project that we must respect to keep these forums clean from any bad language or toxicity. Users can have things to question and criticize but they must be done in a non-attacking manner. There must be decorum, as a group when we want people to join us, they see this that is ongoing and become repulsed. Alongside our partners and exchanges see this and it makes us look bad. We as PIVX Core understand everyone is passionate and wants to grow PIVX, but we cannot fight to such degrees where it is no longer productive and a problem. A thread that is 3+ pages of two people going back and forth is no longer productive. Same with this current thread that started again with mainly 2 people, having another 3+ pages, this topic has got none of us anywhere. So that's why at this point it is being closed. We can have discussions and free speech but once it is out of control we have to moderate. So from this point forward, we need a decorum that will be applied evenly to everyone. As the PIVX team, there will be no favorites other than PIVX. This has become a personal vendetta and has nothing more to do with PIVX. Let us move on. If you need to continue move it to DM respectfully. If this were any other forum everyone would be banned. Remember this forum is representative of our DAO and we need to conduct ourselves professionally and respectfully.
Now let's address a few other points here.
@Eric_Stanek @Gerrald, in regards to a ban, Borris/Gerrald was banned from PIVX discord over issues regarding a potential DOXX. Not to say Borris went and posted someone's entire personal info, but gave some identifying information while mad at someone and those things break Discord ToS. @fuzzbawls will tell you this is the hard-line because being allowed back can cause us to lose the main PIVX discord and have to start over. I have been asked about providing more information for people to try to sort it out, which will come with due time as it was before my time, and have to go and dig. But this is the current stance on why Borris is banned from PIVX Discord. Fighting carried out on the forum and now you see Borris as using Gerrald's account.
Lastly, @robertjack , we agree with you, but with the above information to understand why the thread is locked, maybe you can agree that at this point is has moved away from constructive criticism to just a toxic cesspool. If we want anything to progress it needs to be started over. That is also the current goal here. This thread will also be locked, but everyone must continue forward with a fresh start.
Now thank you for your patience and everything everyone does for PIVX. We are a passionate group and love everyone for it. We just now need to redirect it so we can work together not fight.
Also, @Gerrald forthe discussion about facebook lets move it to a new thread and start fresh, continuing to have a conversation in this thread will only make things messy again and we can start over somewhere else.
Thanks,
The PIVX Team
Now let's address a few other points here.
@Eric_Stanek @Gerrald, in regards to a ban, Borris/Gerrald was banned from PIVX discord over issues regarding a potential DOXX. Not to say Borris went and posted someone's entire personal info, but gave some identifying information while mad at someone and those things break Discord ToS. @fuzzbawls will tell you this is the hard-line because being allowed back can cause us to lose the main PIVX discord and have to start over. I have been asked about providing more information for people to try to sort it out, which will come with due time as it was before my time, and have to go and dig. But this is the current stance on why Borris is banned from PIVX Discord. Fighting carried out on the forum and now you see Borris as using Gerrald's account.
Lastly, @robertjack , we agree with you, but with the above information to understand why the thread is locked, maybe you can agree that at this point is has moved away from constructive criticism to just a toxic cesspool. If we want anything to progress it needs to be started over. That is also the current goal here. This thread will also be locked, but everyone must continue forward with a fresh start.
Now thank you for your patience and everything everyone does for PIVX. We are a passionate group and love everyone for it. We just now need to redirect it so we can work together not fight.
Also, @Gerrald forthe discussion about facebook lets move it to a new thread and start fresh, continuing to have a conversation in this thread will only make things messy again and we can start over somewhere else.
Thanks,
The PIVX Team
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